Re: Punisher/Hulk sequ...reboots
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:09 pm
So...I saw Incredible Hulk yesterday. I tried not comparing it to Hulk, but I can't help it.
The cast: Still sucks all around. I preferred everyone in the '03 cast to the '08 cast. Edward Norton is as boring and lifeless as ever. Liv Tyler wasn't bad (just passable), but she's no Jennifer Connelly. And William Hurt over Sam Elliot? Nigga please. And Tim Roth as Abomination was just there for Hulk to fight with. Much of the acting is laughable (like the brief scene I described a few posts ago), especially with Norton. The Robert Downey Jr. cameo was cool, but should have been tacked onto the end (like Sam Jackson's cameo in Iron Man).
The story: The rewriting of the origin can almost easily be dismissed and one could consider this a sequel to Hulk.
The beginning itself is a problem. It looks like they filmed another 30-45 minutes for the beginning and condensed it into a 3 minute origin recap in the editing room, thus starting the movie almost a quarter of the way into it.
General Ross as a villain. In Hulk, he wasn't so much a villain as he was a General just doing his job. In Incredible Hulk, he is an all around asshole with a vendetta.
One other problem I had, which I haven't seen mentioned anywhere: I thought it was pissing Banner off that turned him into Hulk, not getting excited. I never really followed Hulk comics very closely, so anger may be something from the tv show rather than a comic thing. Correct me if I'm wrong.
The effects: Not bad, but considering most of the Hulk/Abomination effects take place at night it doesn't seem that hard to pull off. There are a few times where Hulk does very similar fight moves as he did in Hulk (the shoulder into the tank comes to mind).
The extras: The Lou Ferigno cameo (and his voice as Hulk), the Bill Bixby show on tv, and the sad walking away music. All too much. We get it!
Overall, I'd give it a C-.
Not as horrible as I expected, but nowhere near as good as Hulk.
The cast: Still sucks all around. I preferred everyone in the '03 cast to the '08 cast. Edward Norton is as boring and lifeless as ever. Liv Tyler wasn't bad (just passable), but she's no Jennifer Connelly. And William Hurt over Sam Elliot? Nigga please. And Tim Roth as Abomination was just there for Hulk to fight with. Much of the acting is laughable (like the brief scene I described a few posts ago), especially with Norton. The Robert Downey Jr. cameo was cool, but should have been tacked onto the end (like Sam Jackson's cameo in Iron Man).
The story: The rewriting of the origin can almost easily be dismissed and one could consider this a sequel to Hulk.
The beginning itself is a problem. It looks like they filmed another 30-45 minutes for the beginning and condensed it into a 3 minute origin recap in the editing room, thus starting the movie almost a quarter of the way into it.
General Ross as a villain. In Hulk, he wasn't so much a villain as he was a General just doing his job. In Incredible Hulk, he is an all around asshole with a vendetta.
One other problem I had, which I haven't seen mentioned anywhere: I thought it was pissing Banner off that turned him into Hulk, not getting excited. I never really followed Hulk comics very closely, so anger may be something from the tv show rather than a comic thing. Correct me if I'm wrong.
The effects: Not bad, but considering most of the Hulk/Abomination effects take place at night it doesn't seem that hard to pull off. There are a few times where Hulk does very similar fight moves as he did in Hulk (the shoulder into the tank comes to mind).
The extras: The Lou Ferigno cameo (and his voice as Hulk), the Bill Bixby show on tv, and the sad walking away music. All too much. We get it!
Overall, I'd give it a C-.
Not as horrible as I expected, but nowhere near as good as Hulk.