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Did I read this correctly? The new movies aren't going to be cannon, but the new tv show will be?

No. The movies (and tv shows, I think) are the only 100% canon.
Everything else is bullshit, according to Lucasfilm.

I give up.

I probably sound like a disgruntled fanboy bitching because his favorite story is being chucked. (And, yeah, if the new films aren't Thrawn Trilogy good, I will definitely be.)

But it's more that, for the longest time, Star Wars was the only franchise with media tie-ins where everything was considered canon so long as it didn't contradict something that was "more canon." Star Trek? Feh. They actually have fucking Star Trek books about how Kirk didn't die in Star Trek: Generations simply because Shatner didn't like the idea. Dr. Who? Even messier.

The only thing I can think of like that would be Firefly, which, well, it doesn't exactly have a shit-ton of tie-ins.

Now, it's just the same shitty mess the others are.

That is kinda shitty. I blame Bob Harras. Somehow, this has his stink all over it.

Oops. I think misread this paragraph the first time:

In order to give maximum creative freedom to the filmmakers and also preserve an element of surprise and discovery for the audience, Star Wars Episodes VII-IX will not tell the same story told in the post-Return of the Jedi Expanded Universe. While the universe that readers knew is changing, it is not being discarded. Creators of new Star Wars entertainment have full access to the rich content of the Expanded Universe. For example, elements of the EU are included in Star Wars Rebels. The Inquisitor, the Imperial Security Bureau, and Sienar Fleet Systems are story elements in the new animated series, and all these ideas find their origins in roleplaying game material published in the 1980s.

since corporations determine how i feel and think about things, i forgot all the EU i've read/seen/played/smelled/tasted as soon as i read the last sentence of the press release.

wait. that's not at all how things work, and i can decide what really happened and didn't happen in the star wars universe contained within my mind.

Truth be told, that's my thoughts. Mara lives because Jacen didn't go dark side.

I guess the title of this thread truly applies to me now.

I saw my Facebook feed going berserk with posts about a casting confirmation, or something. I just moved on to the next post, hoping for funny cats or something. I haven't read any of it and am not sure that I give enough of a shit to do it, though I suppose I will when I'm bored sometime.

There were three wonderful movies, three passable movies, and a handful of good books and comics and such. This new generation can have their geriatric Luke Skywalker and whatever the hell else comes with him.

Gollum comes with him, or so I read.

I didn't think the casting of Hamill, Ford, and Fisher was news. Didn't they announce it last year? Or is the news cycle so preposterous nowadays, they can recycle news from months ago and it's treated fresh.

The original cast returning has been the worst kept secret since the announcement of Episode VII.

I'm excited for the flick, but nowhere near as excited as I got when the Episode I cast was announced.
Maybe that will change when we finally start seeing real updates, images, trailers, etc.

One thing I do know, Daisy Ridley is pretty hot.

I saw several people post today about how Denis Lawson was asked to return as Wedge, but didn't because the role didn't expand upon the character behind "background pilot who blows up the Death Star but even then only fanboys remember." So I actually read the article.

And someone posted an article about the Boba Fett standalone movie, which is apparently already in pre-production and planned for the next few years. I didn't bother reading that one. (No idea if it's solid or not.)

It's somewhat troubling that they haven't learned from the EU. Starting over is one thing. But they have almost forty years worth of stuff to look at and gauge what works, and what doesn't. And they're not learning.

People like old Luke, Leia, Han, and Lando. Why? Because they aged more slowly and far more gracefully than Mark, Carrie, Harrison, and Billy. Old Leia, as portrayed on book covers, is a total milf. Hell, a gilf. Old Carrie Fisher is icky. But the focus seems to be on three of those four.

Boba Fett only works as a mysterious quiet motherfucker in armor. Anything that adds to his story (with the except of Jude Watson's series, which did a decent job of restoring some of his appeal after AOTC fucked it royally) detracts from his character. He's The Man With No Name. You don't want to find out he started out mopping bathrooms or some shit.

And, most importantly, Wedge is far more interesting in the post-ROTJ universe than the main cast. They come with too much baggage. Wedge is hardly fleshed out at all in the movies, but he has an appeal. There's a reason so many people consider the Rogue Squadron material (three different forms of media, in fact) to be some of the strongest EU, despite main characters only being cameos at best. Wedge is a guy you already like, but have no preconceived ideas about.

I'm almost expecting Episode VII to be about Waru leading the Ssi-Ruuk invasion of Dathomir at this point....

anarky wrote: People like old Luke, Leia, Han, and Lando. Why? Because they aged more slowly and far more gracefully than Mark, Carrie, Harrison, and Billy. Old Leia, as portrayed on book covers, is a total milf. Hell, a gilf. Old Carrie Fisher is icky. But the focus seems to be on three of those four.

Carrie Fisher lost 40 lbs. for this movie. She may be not as icky as you claim.

Interesting fact: The father of Carrie Fisher's child actually enjoys his visits from Bizzaro The Grin.

Gripey, but about a slightly different subject.

The fifteenth anniversary of TPM is Monday. I went on YouTube to see the original "single version" music video made for "Duel of the Fates."

Would you believe I can find a billion shitty fan-made videos, but not the actual frigging music video? Not even the second version made six years later for the ROTS soundtrack DVD.

Edit: It is on DailyMotion, though. Unfortunately with shitty quality.

I remember watching that on Entertainment Tonight when it first aired. Probably the greatest trailer for a movie ever.

And I'm so over the hate or TPM. It usually comes from the fan boys that are still mad Boba Fett died too. I think it's a direct correlation.

How did Boba Fett really died?!

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