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I missed this in theatres and finally rented it last night. It was okay. I really don't expect much from Mark Steven Johnson. he doesn't suck as a director, but well...to use a metaphor, he just kind of puts up four walls and throws on a roof, rather than building a house. he says hes a big fan of comic books ( having done Daredevil and now Ghost Rider) but he doesn't really get INTO the characters. He just takes the best parts of a decades long mythology for the characters and mushes them onto celluloid.
And while I admire Nick Cage's obvious enthusiasm for the character, he still can only play Nick Cage onscreen.
Wes Bentley was brilliantly understated in his performance, but the Blackheart role simply had no depth to it. It was if the script said "Generic Demon named Blackheart" As it was, Wes did what he could with it. I'm actually surprised he signed on for this.
Eva Mendes and her breasts were enjoyable throughout the film. Raquel Alessi, The girl playing young Roxanne was cute too.
Sam Elliot makes anything better. He could make the reading of a phone book fun as long as his voice was reading it. So giving him all that expository about the GR legend and that, was smart.
Peter Fonda did an perfunctory Mephisto, but anyone else would have done just as well. He didn't really put any strong effort into the role.
And lastly, the effects. They were sparse throughout the film, but they were good. Even the tearing up of the streets, and the melting of the glass on the side of the building were nice touches. Ghost Rider looked badass. He did the penance stare and whipped the chain around. All the cool Ghost Ridery stuff. its just too bad the story around the effects was mostly puff. But then again, GR isnt Superman or Batman or Spider-Man. he doesn't have that STRONG origin story to fall back on. Let's face it, hes mostly a visual character, and you cant build a good narrative around black leather and a flaming skull.
Ghost Rider falls squarely in that "Okay but not Great" Marvel Movie category along with Daredevil, The Punisher, and the Blade Movies.
And while I admire Nick Cage's obvious enthusiasm for the character, he still can only play Nick Cage onscreen.
Wes Bentley was brilliantly understated in his performance, but the Blackheart role simply had no depth to it. It was if the script said "Generic Demon named Blackheart" As it was, Wes did what he could with it. I'm actually surprised he signed on for this.
Eva Mendes and her breasts were enjoyable throughout the film. Raquel Alessi, The girl playing young Roxanne was cute too.
Sam Elliot makes anything better. He could make the reading of a phone book fun as long as his voice was reading it. So giving him all that expository about the GR legend and that, was smart.
Peter Fonda did an perfunctory Mephisto, but anyone else would have done just as well. He didn't really put any strong effort into the role.
And lastly, the effects. They were sparse throughout the film, but they were good. Even the tearing up of the streets, and the melting of the glass on the side of the building were nice touches. Ghost Rider looked badass. He did the penance stare and whipped the chain around. All the cool Ghost Ridery stuff. its just too bad the story around the effects was mostly puff. But then again, GR isnt Superman or Batman or Spider-Man. he doesn't have that STRONG origin story to fall back on. Let's face it, hes mostly a visual character, and you cant build a good narrative around black leather and a flaming skull.
Ghost Rider falls squarely in that "Okay but not Great" Marvel Movie category along with Daredevil, The Punisher, and the Blade Movies.
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my sentiments exactly.Eternal Padawan wrote:And while I admire Nick Cage's obvious enthusiasm for the character, he still can only play Nick Cage onscreen.
my sentiments exactly.Eva Mendes and her breasts were enjoyable throughout the film.
yeah, he was really cool in the movie. all the more disappointing that he's out of "the incredible hulk" because he made a better t-bold ross than he did "caretaker".Sam Elliot makes anything better. He could make the reading of a phone book fun as long as his voice was reading it. So giving him all that expository about the GR legend and that, was smart.
i put the blade movies well above daredevil and punisher. GR too.Ghost Rider falls squarely in that "Okay but not Great" Marvel Movie category along with Daredevil, The Punisher, and the Blade Movies.
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Marvel got Ghost Rider back from Sony.
Not that anybody is clamoring for another Ghost Rider movie after the last two (I haven't seen the sequel, but I can't imagine it's shittier than Green Lantern, Catwoman, Jonah Hex, Steel, etc) but they could "start fresh" by having Dan Ketch be the GR in the Marvel films and kinda semi acknowledge the previous films as "history" of the character. That's how the 90s Ghost Rider comic did it. I didn't know shit about Johnny Blaze when I read the first issue and loved the concept.
Not that anybody is clamoring for another Ghost Rider movie after the last two (I haven't seen the sequel, but I can't imagine it's shittier than Green Lantern, Catwoman, Jonah Hex, Steel, etc) but they could "start fresh" by having Dan Ketch be the GR in the Marvel films and kinda semi acknowledge the previous films as "history" of the character. That's how the 90s Ghost Rider comic did it. I didn't know shit about Johnny Blaze when I read the first issue and loved the concept.
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Especially if they approach it the same way as the 90s GR series, which was awesome as shit, no matter what all the Blaze fellators think. Danny and GR not knowing who GR is, and everyone thinking he's Zarathos, that was cool. Admit it.

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Heh. I fished Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance out of the $5 bin. It was crap, but not the god awful abortion everybody called it. As with the first one, it had about 10 minutes of cool shit in it, surrounded by 80 minutes of shit. Nic Cage was worse in this than the first one, and perhaps worse than anything he's ever done. He was either overly manic to the point of being a parody of himself. Or he was just disinterested in even acting and just spoke his lines. And it was either one or the other. And since he was "MoCap"ing the GR this time, the Rider was equally manic for no reason(just without Cage's excessive mugging).
The other actors did all right with what they had. The chick was hot. The kid wasn't an annoying douche like most child actors are. Ciaran Hinds did what he could as "Roarke"(why they had to rename the Devil/Mephisto in this I have no idea). Idris Elba was much less annoying as the alcoholic gun toting priest than the character should have been. Small role filled nicely by Chris Lambert. I also liked the thug badguy who later returns as the sorta Blackout homage character. Seeing Blackout was actually one of the nice surprises in the film. They didn't get it exactly right, but considering the overall shittiness of the film, it was cool. As was seeing the "blue flame" version of GR at the end of the film.
Now that Marvel has the rights back, they should leave this on the shelf for awhile. But hopefully someone can do a good Ghost Rider movie eventually.
I'd give it a 4 mayyybe 4.5/10.
The other actors did all right with what they had. The chick was hot. The kid wasn't an annoying douche like most child actors are. Ciaran Hinds did what he could as "Roarke"(why they had to rename the Devil/Mephisto in this I have no idea). Idris Elba was much less annoying as the alcoholic gun toting priest than the character should have been. Small role filled nicely by Chris Lambert. I also liked the thug badguy who later returns as the sorta Blackout homage character. Seeing Blackout was actually one of the nice surprises in the film. They didn't get it exactly right, but considering the overall shittiness of the film, it was cool. As was seeing the "blue flame" version of GR at the end of the film.
Now that Marvel has the rights back, they should leave this on the shelf for awhile. But hopefully someone can do a good Ghost Rider movie eventually.
I'd give it a 4 mayyybe 4.5/10.
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I was just talking about that horrible piece of shit with a coworker the other day.
I still find it odd/slightly annoying that the kid in the flick was named Danny and he wasn't Danny Ketch.
I still find it odd/slightly annoying that the kid in the flick was named Danny and he wasn't Danny Ketch.
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True. But at the same time, it's good he wasn't Ketch. Because him being the "son of Mephisto Roarke" would've been doubly ass if he HAD been Ketch.
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